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(P.S. from yesterday's entry..  The rhythm and timing.. Counting is supreme.. Whenever I come across a song that I really like but don't understand the rhythm or timing or time signature, I try to figure it out.. Welcome to The Machine by Pink Floyd is one of the songs that in the early days I could not figure out.. What is the time signature on this thing.. Turns out while it doesn't sound like there is a rhythm, there is and there is a time signature as well.. It uses many, from 4/4 to 5/4 and 3/4..  You ever listen to Money by the Floyd??  7/4 is the primary time signature before in gets to the middle jam break where it reverts back to a more listenable 4/4 and quite easier way to jam, that way everyone isn't concentrating on the 7 count.. Stressful live... So back to the song at hand and yes it is called Kiev Mission.. but it was called Kew Mission on the first release "Exit" from 1981.. One of their finest moments.. Please prove me wrong.. Counting in 4  or 4/4 time as the beat feels generally like a 4/4 song, then the main theme starts and you can't keep it up because of the rhythm being inverted.. A progressive sound, and very progressive in their delivery.. Counting the snare on three means it could be there, that's where I initially thought it was.. But knowing Edgar Frose it isn't that easy.. It has to be on one of the count.. the guy was a music genius, and easy wasn't in his vocabulary..

So in this video we have.. What's the difference, it's the same song from about the same tour.. An outdoor gig, starting with the song Kiev Mission, with the sound that builds.. So why do the keyboards start where they do??  The sequencer wasn't set right for the very beginning as this song was the very first song of the evening, you can hear the keyboard start twice and on the second time it was still off.. The entry yesterday was right exact.. This is just a bit off but as the main theme starts the song is right exact.. Sequencing is primary to their gigs and there are those who aren't even sure they are actually playing anything at the gigs.. I wasn't sure any of them are playing an instrument or not..  Iris Camaa (the girls playing the drums) seems at times to just be playing some rhythm, but not the main percussive sounds... What gives??

Midwinter Night:  That changes with this song.. The keyboard player Thorsten Quaeschning does start the song playing the piano part facing the bank of sequencers that TD have been known for as far back as the mid sixties when they ditched the regular musical instruments and went totally experimental.. Linda Spa plays every reed instrument, nails her song perfectly.. Iris Camaa plays the drums, all the parts.. v drums as well.. This is just one of those favorite songs that I didn't think I would ever get to see done live.. Truth be told there were a great number of songs I wished I would have gotten to see be done live.

Badge Henry

(P.S.  added to the already P.S.  here are some of the members of TD.. to show yes they do play instruments.. And quite well I might add..

Iris Camaa  drums but here she is vocalizing.. Which she was doing long before joining the band..

Lind Spa (reeds and flute)  her song.. It's not over now..

Bernard Beibl, guitars...

Ulrich Schnauss ... I'm thinking this is the newest member of the band, seeing  that Edgar passed away last year and this guy was never in any of the shows that I can remember.. .. Tangerine Dream has vowed to move forward with  the outline of a new album that was going to be recorded this year.. Me personally I feel like the band was Edgar, and whatever he wanted and it was that way from the start.. So like it or hate it this was the dream...  )